El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexity
Publicado: Lun Sep 19, 2011 10:24 pm
por pR0gR4m3R
Ha sido un dia bastante movido desde que Complexity Gaming anuncio a primera hora de la mañana la incorporacion de Stephano, procedenete de Millenium, a sus filas. Todo seria un fichaje normal si no fuera porque a las pocas horas, la organizacion francesa Millenium Gaming anunciaba que Stephano se quedaba en su equipo con un nuevo contrato, mejores condiciones, ect.. y a partir de ahi comienza el salseo y show por parte de ambos equipos
Primero el comunicado de Millenium, donde venian a decir que Complexity usaba metodos para fichar a jugadores que no eran adecuados
Oculto:
"Since the start of Millenium, we dreamt of a french eSport platform that would discover young players with great potential, would support them in their passion and would follow them to the summits of skill...
Stephano joined Millenium at the start of Starcraft 2, practically unknown. We supported him as best as possible until today. He is now considered a great hope for the world circuit with amazing potential, and to have to let him go to another team would have been a complete failure for us, a nonsensical thing.
The techniques used by Complexity to recruit Stephano were quite disorienting to influence our young player towards a bad decision. After a long discussion, Stephano understood his mistake and decided to stay with Millenium for the next 12 months
This troubled day was, however, full of lessons. This morning, with the announcement of our player to an American team, the majority of the french community considered this transfer as a logical step. I even saw some amateur writers of our site write with sadness that Millenium "could not compare."
Now, let's stop bringing ourselves down, lets stop thinking that a french player has to play abroad to succeed. The Millenium.org site has more page his then SK-Gaming.com or any other european or american team outside of Team Liquid. Our budget is certainly one of the biggest in the world in terms of E-sports teams. So let's stop seeing ourselves as worse because we are a french team.
Stephano will sign, as agreed a CDI(Contrat a duree indeterminee, ie: a contract of work with no expiration date) as a "Professional player," identical to those signed by professional sportsmen. He will travel across the world to attempt to win many tournaments, from Asia to the USA. We put our hopes and dreams of a French victory on him, but we also expect a lot from our other Starcraft players and our soon to be League of Legends team...
Let them make us dream and cheer! Let Millenium shine, for all the passionate fans of electronic sports that we are!"
Y aqui la respuesta de Complexity en su comunicado, explicando cual ha sido el proceso de la negociacion, y sus reflexiones sobre llevar el asunto a los tribunales, por amor propio, mas que otra cosa
Oculto:
Their points in brief are as follows :
1- Complexity contacted Stephano first on September 1st as he was interested in joining the team.
2- Millennium and Complexity were in a bidding war for Stephano, but never pressured him into signing with them.
3- Stephano was fully aware of the terms of the contract.
4- Stephano contacted CatZ and Jason Bass (the manager of Col) and is quoted as saying "Don't worry I won't change my mind again." He then signed a legally binding contract.
5- Stephano would've been "one of the highest paid SC2 players in the world" at Complexity and they ensured that he would get "global travel" including to Korea.
Complexity are "seriously consider(ing) legal action in this matter"
Full article in text format below,as the site appears to be suffering a lot of stress.
"Dear friends,
We know many of you are quite confused as to the recent incident involving Stephano and Team Millennium. Frankly, we are as well. As of the time of this post both have ignored our requests for open discussions. Our goal in this statement is to provide you with our side of the story, even as we are actively investigating the proper course of action, not only for ourselves but for the greater good of eSports in general.
We are proud of the fact that compLexity Gaming has been a global presence in eSports since 2003. During that time we have not been perfect but we have always tried to conduct our business affairs with the highest level of integrity. We have been honored to work with some of the best gamers in the world in multiple gaming titles and have made lifelong friendships in this "business" that is much more of a passion project than a profit machine. We say this because today, Millennium's outrageous allegations have suggested that our pursuit of Stephano was done in a less than honorable manner. To that we take great exception.
Here are the facts (all of which can be proven by written logs):
1) We first contacted Stephano on September 1st, 2011. We stated our interest in retaining his services and he stated that he was in no way contracted to Millennium and was interested in joining compLexity.
2) For the next 18 days we conducted negotiations. We would make an offer and Millennium would make a counter offer. At no point did we apply pressure other than to make it clear that we were willing to do what it would take to secure his services.
3) Over the course of several days, Jason Bass spent time explaining our contract to Stephano in detail and making sure he understood all of the terms.
4) Yesterday Stephano contacted coL.CatZ and our COO Jason Bass to inform them he had made his final decision and told CatZ "Don't worry I won't change my mind again." He then executed a legally binding contract with our organization. He seemed genuinely excited to be a part of our organization and joined our private Skype channel to chat with the team before going to bed.
5) Stephano's contract with compLexity made him one of the highest paid SC2 players in the world and ensured him global travel, training in Korea and access to other undisclosed plans we have for the future. In no way was he taken advantage of or pressured into a subpar agreement.
Today we were very surprised and disappointed to see that Millennium had announced Stephano would not be leaving their organization- completely disregarding and disrespecting the fact that he had 18 days to consider the offers and had executed a legally binding contract with our organization. As mentioned previously, as of the time of this post both Millennium and Stephano have refused to answer our emails requesting a discussion of this serious matter.
This leaves us in a very difficult situation. As people who are passionate about eSports, this situation is quickly turning out to be a humiliating one despite our best efforts to handle matters in the right way. By no means do we want to force a player to be part of our gaming family. For over eight years gamers have longed to play under the compLexity banner. To have someone treat our sincere offer of support and cooperation in such a light hearted manner is frustrating and disheartening.
On the other side of the coin, in order for all of us to have a stable and maturing eSports environment there absolutely must be respect for and adherence to legally binding contracts. How can any organization be expected to conduct the business side of gaming (acquiring and retaining sponsors, etc) if contracts are disregarded and players/teams do whatever they feel like at the moment? We believe the answer is clear- contracts must be honored and legally binding promises enforced if we are to continue our collective growth. It has never been our wish to legally pursue a gamer or another gaming organization but at what point must a stand be taken? These are the questions we are discussing today. We will fully review our options and will seriously consider legal action in this matter. Many observers would publicly crucify us for taking such a stand but it is our belief that doing what is right is more important that always doing what is popular. It is our intention to consult with other eSports leaders and weigh their opinions highly. Although this is ultimately our business decision and responsibility, the ramifications will be felt world-wide and we feel an obligation to get opinions from our respected colleagues.
We sincerely apologize to the coL Community and the broader eSports community for this embarrassing turn of events and we greatly thank you for your support. Both of us have poured ourselves into eSports for nearly a decade and are very disheartened by this situation.
Sincerely yours,
Jason Lake Jason Bass compLexity Gaming"
A partir de aqui se podrian comentar muchas cosas sobre el panorama de los esports y todo lo que rodean las negociaciones, contratos y demas temas legales que rodean a los jugadores, aparte de la seriedad de estos a la hora de firmar y respetar contratos que tienen una legalidad. Mucha gente habla de que los esports son los deportes del futuro y la gran panacea, pero aun nos queda un largo camino por delante, a todas las partes, y ojala casos como este sirvan para definir como tienen que ser las actuaciones, negociaciones y condiciones de los contratos en el futuro
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Lun Sep 19, 2011 10:35 pm
por Edswor
pR0gR4m3R escribió:Mucha gente habla de que los esports son los deportes del futuro y la gran panacea, pero aun nos queda un largo camino por delante, a todas las partes, y ojala casos como este sirvan para definir como tienen que ser las actuaciones, negociaciones y condiciones de los contratos en el futuro
Esperemos que así sea, porque casos como este no pueden volver a darse .
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Lun Sep 19, 2011 10:52 pm
por haitike
No entiendo mucho a Stephano.
Complexity iba a pagarle uno de los sueldos mas altos del mundo en Starcraft2 con viajes pagados por todo el mundo, y se queda en su equipo frances donde apenas puede participar en ninguna LAN... no tiene nada de sentido.
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Lun Sep 19, 2011 11:02 pm
por pR0gR4m3R
haitike escribió:No entiendo mucho a Stephano.
Complexity iba a pagarle uno de los sueldos mas altos del mundo en Starcraft2 con viajes pagados por todo el mundo, y se queda en su equipo frances donde apenas puede participar en ninguna LAN... no tiene nada de sentido.
Algo le han tenido que ofrecer cuando Millenium afirma que no tiene nada que envidiar otros equipos. Yo creo que Millenium ha ido corriendo a alguno de sus sponsors para que suelte la pasta y retener al jugador
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Lun Sep 19, 2011 11:22 pm
por DoKy
edit by doky xD fue algo sucio lo que puse
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Lun Sep 19, 2011 11:42 pm
por Shaaw
No vale doky, estaba jugando T el xD xD
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Mar Sep 20, 2011 12:00 am
por DoKy
jajaja lo sé pero el cheese que se come mode doky style no tiene desperdicio
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Mar Sep 20, 2011 12:17 am
por pR0gR4m3R
DoKy escribió:jajaja lo sé pero el cheese que se come mode doky style no tiene desperdicio
como se lo puede comer cualquiera
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Mar Sep 20, 2011 12:45 am
por darkzuka
que interesante... ya hasta podria especializarme en defender a equipos de sc2 cuando me gradue como abogado :3!! y eso que me gusta mucho los contratos... y el sc2 :3!!
Re: El fracasado fichaje de Millenium.Stephano por Complexit
Publicado: Mar Sep 20, 2011 12:53 am
por Baha
Lo que esta claro es que con la (cada mes presente) internacionalizacion del Sc2, tal vez el rollo de "las familias sarcraft" haya de terminarse.
Los equipos han de empezar a pensar en poner contratos con clausulas igual que se hace en cualquier deporte, la gente se mueve por dinero y si se quiere a un jugador, pues que se pague. Claro que Millenium habra dado mucho por el, pero seguramente no le han renovado el contrato hasta que veian que iban a perderlo. Pagar clausulas por el hubiese sido la mejor manera de amortizar el coste que supuso financiarlo a el en sus inicios.